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== Patch: make {{para|decat|yes}} prevent categorization from [[Module:Infobox]] under [[:Category:Pages using infobox templates with ignored data cells]] too ==

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If you change line #167 in [[Module:Infobox]] from
<syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">
if rowArgs.data then
</syntaxhighlight>

to

<syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">
if rowArgs.data and (args.decat ~= 'yes') then
</syntaxhighlight>

then {{para|decat|yes}} will also prevent categorizing because of ignored data cells.

I'd also suggest changing the module to use [[Module:Yesno]] since {{para|decat|Yes}} doesn't work as intended, for example, as I discovered before adding the right parameter to the first example under [[Template:Infobox/doc#Examples]] in my local copy of the doc. [[User:Tactica|Tactica]] ([[User talk:Tactica|talk]]) 19:50, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
: {{Done}} [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|it has begun...]] 23:40, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

== image flip ==

Is there a way to flip images in an infobox? The image flip template does not seem to work with it. ← [[User:Metallurgist|Metallurgist]] ([[User talk:Metallurgist|talk]]) 00:49, 2 December 2025 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure that there was a discussion on this some years ago, the overwhelming consensus being that image flipping (left to right) was not to be encouraged, because it could be seen as misleading; but I can't find it now. That said, our image policies and guidelines are spread about over many pages, and it's often difficult to find even simple things - like the policy on recommended sizes is not on the same page as the policy on captions. --[[User:Redrose64|Redrose64]] 🌹 ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 16:48, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

== Mystery image appearing at top of InfoBox ==

The article [[Nile]] in English Wikipedia has an infobox, and it displays the image [[commons:File:Cairo_skyline,_Panoramic_view,_Egypt.jpg]] at the top. But that image is not mentioend anywhere in the page's markup. Where is the image coming from? And how would one remove it from that InfoBox? [[User:Noleander|Noleander]] ([[User talk:Noleander|talk]]) 02:51, 5 January 2026 (UTC)
:{{replyto|Noleander}} By default, [[Template:Infobox river]] pulls an image from Commons based upon the information at the appropriate Wikidata page, which for [[Nile]] is [[d:Q3392]], specifically the property [[d:Q3392#P18]]. The actual infobox code is <syntaxhighlight lang=wikitext>{{#invoke:WikidataIB |getValue|rank=best|P18 |name=image |qid={{{qid|}}} |suppressfields={{{suppressfields|}}} |fetchwikidata={{{fetchwikidata|ALL}}} |onlysourced=no |noicon=yes |maxvals=1 |{{{image|}}}}}</syntaxhighlight> which for [[Nile]] emits <samp>{{#invoke:WikidataIB |getValue|rank=best|P18 |name=image |qid=Q3392 |suppressfields= |fetchwikidata=ALL |onlysourced=no |noicon=yes |maxvals=1 }}</samp>. This may be overridden by filling in the article's infobox with a valid non-blank value for {{para|image}}, or suppressed entirely using {{para|suppressfields|image}}. --[[User:Redrose64|Redrose64]] 🦌 ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 11:00, 5 January 2026 (UTC)
::Thanks; excellent information. [[User:Noleander|Noleander]] ([[User talk:Noleander|talk]]) 15:30, 5 January 2026 (UTC)
:Also replied at [[Template talk:Infobox river#How hide wikidata photo at top of the InfoBox?]]. Please avoid cross-posting — Martin ([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]]) 12:34, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

== Autoheaders but off for one element ==

With {{tl|Infobox radio station}} I am running into an increasing amount of articles (e.g. [[Chapman Radio]]) where I want to have city and country show all the time, even if none of the parameters beneath has been specified (e.g. for internet radio stations). The infobox has autoheaders turned on. How do I keep it for the other headers but make the first header always display?

<syntaxhighlight lang=wikitext>
| header1 = {{ubl|{{{city|}}}|{{Country name|{{{country|}}}|notfound={{{country|}}} }} }}

| label2 = Broadcast area
| class2 = label
| data2 = {{{area|}}}

| label3 = [[Frequency|Frequenc{{pluralize from text|{{if empty|{{{frequency|}}}|{{{frequencies|}}}}}|plural=ies|singular=y}}]]
| data3 = {{if empty|{{{frequency|}}}|{{{frequencies|}}}}}

| label4 = [[Radio Data System|RDS]]
| data4 = {{{rds|}}}

| label5 = Branding
| data5 = {{{branding|}}}
</syntaxhighlight> [[User:Sammi Brie|Sammi Brie]] (she/her · [[User talk:Sammi Brie|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sammi Brie|c]]) 04:58, 17 February 2026 (UTC)
:{{replyto|Sammi Brie}} Have you considered setting {{para|area|Internet}} in the articles concerned? --[[User:Redrose64|Redrose64]] 🌹 ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 14:42, 17 February 2026 (UTC)
::That's not a one-size-fits-all solution @[[User:Redrose64|Redrose64]]. The internet really isn't an area. There are also stations on DAB I have to deal with, or that have 20 FM frequencies that don't belong in an infobox. [[User:Sammi Brie|Sammi Brie]] (she/her · [[User talk:Sammi Brie|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sammi Brie|c]]) 21:19, 17 February 2026 (UTC)
:::Why not put those two in new data{{var|N}} parameters and modify the header. The header doesn't really describe all things in that section. That seems like the simplest and most correct fix. [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 13:06, 18 February 2026 (UTC)
:::I agree with Gonnym. You can move the city/country into data1, perhaps with "Location" as label1. Then in header2 you can give a header for Broadcast area, Frequency and RDS. Have a look what I've done in [[Template:Infobox radio station/sandbox]] — Martin ([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]]) 15:02, 18 February 2026 (UTC)
::::Hmmmmm... That's not a bad idea. I'm thinking about ways that this could be done without changing the formatting. There's no good header for the stuff right under there because it's often fundamentally basic information (that can't be buried in one of the header bins below). Linking [[Special:Permalink/1339018214|your revision]] because I think I want to do some of my own trial-and-error. [[User:Sammi Brie|Sammi Brie]] (she/her · [[User talk:Sammi Brie|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sammi Brie|c]]) 05:12, 21 February 2026 (UTC)
:::::Another option would be to set them as the {{para|subheader}}. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 08:51, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

== Auto implement [[Template:longitem]] ==

I have recently been adding {{tl|longitem}} to numerous Infoboxes ([[Special:Diff/1343081710/1353100912|example]]) to better wrap long items in labels. It has occurred to me, shouldn't this be automatic? Is there any situation where you would '''not''' want better wrap labels that take up 2 lines? It would seem to me that it would be a much better solution to automatically do this at the level of {{tl|Infobox}}/[[Module:Infobox]] rather then having to individually wrap any infobox label that has the potential to wrap to a second line.

If there is an objection to automatically implementing this on every infobox, could we implement it but ''hide'' it behind a flag like {{para|auto_longitem}} (to mimic the way {{para|autoheaders}} is used)?

Boils down to 2 questions:
# Is there any objection to adding such a feature?
# How technically feasible is it to achieve?

Pinging users who have done major work on this module: {{ping|Izno|Fayenatic london|Pppery|Plastikspork|Frietjes|Gonnym|Primefac}} '''[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann]]''' ([[User_talk:Zackmann08|Talk to me]]/[[Special:Contributions/Zackmann08|What I been doing]]) 17:50, 9 May 2026 (UTC)

:I don't see a need for something needed so irregularly in a generic template. [[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 18:47, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
::{{ping|izno}} can you say more? {{tq|Needed so irregularly}}? It seems to be used quite a lot so not sure I understand your meaning? '''[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann]]''' ([[User_talk:Zackmann08|Talk to me]]/[[Special:Contributions/Zackmann08|What I been doing]]) 18:58, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
:::You've added it to a dozen templates in the past month and a half but only to a handful of parameters each. It doesn't need to be supported at that level of use. [[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 19:03, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
::::I guess my point is rather than having to add it one by one, wouldn't it be easier to just have it automatically implemented? I'm genuinely asking as I don't have enough of an understanding of the Module to know, is there a downside to automatically wrapping long labels with less padding that would make this a bad idea to do? I agree I've only added it to a few templates recently, but wouldn't it be better to not have to search for these cases and manually add it and instead have it automatically done. What am I missing? '''[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann]]''' ([[User_talk:Zackmann08|Talk to me]]/[[Special:Contributions/Zackmann08|What I been doing]]) 21:06, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
:::::So I was able to pretty quickly and easily achieve this with [[Special:Diff/1316064257/1353378980|this edit]] to [[Module:Infobox/styles.css]]. Please someone let me know (or simply revert it) if there is any issue with this that I am overlooking. '''[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann]]''' ([[User_talk:Zackmann08|Talk to me]]/[[Special:Contributions/Zackmann08|What I been doing]]) 23:06, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
::::::Ugh so it caused an issue with [[Template:Infobox soap character]]. Open to ideas... '''[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann]]''' ([[User_talk:Zackmann08|Talk to me]]/[[Special:Contributions/Zackmann08|What I been doing]]) 02:25, 10 May 2026 (UTC)
::::::@[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] Never ever make test edits to a module so widely transcluded. Please don't do that again. [[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 15:53, 10 May 2026 (UTC)
:::::::To be fair, I tested the edits repeatedly... My edit summary doesn't accurately portray that and I will be sure to better summarize in the future. This was quite extensively tested. An unforeseen '''very minor''' issue cropped up and I '''immediately''' reverted my edit, but this was a minor style issue. It is not like I blanked data or broke templates. Your warning is noted, but I feel overly dramatic. '''[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann]]''' ([[User_talk:Zackmann08|Talk to me]]/[[Special:Contributions/Zackmann08|What I been doing]]) 15:56, 10 May 2026 (UTC)
::::::::I could have told you, if that was what you intended to implement, that it would cause issues. It is not a minor issue. I could have told you that your change would break how the template works if you had proposed the actual change on the talk page using a sandbox (and would probably also affect mobile poorly, based on the specific change). Do better.
::::::::An immediate revert is insufficient; you're still dropping 3 million pages into the job queue. [[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 16:00, 10 May 2026 (UTC)
::::::::Making that change is also incompatible with where the template will eventually go (see [[User:Izno/Sandbox/Infobox]]).
::::::::If you want to handle long items, you will need to continue implementing them ad hoc. [[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 16:01, 10 May 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::{{ping|Izno}} that is duly noted. I felt I tried to solicit your input and you were pretty dismissive of the idea as a whole. In the future I will be more careful and I do apologize. I admit I completely neglected to realize that I was {{Tq|dropping 3 million pages into the job queue}}. Clearly I still have lots to learn. Rest assured I hear you loud and clear and I will do better moving forward. I '''had''' planned to continue with this idea at [[Module:Infobox/styles.css/sandbox]] '''and''' to request a review and leave it to someone else to actually implement in the live version of the code. Based on the wholly negative reaction I guess it is best to just walk away and focus on other projects. '''[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann]]''' ([[User_talk:Zackmann08|Talk to me]]/[[Special:Contributions/Zackmann08|What I been doing]]) 16:06, 10 May 2026 (UTC)
:Thanks for the ping, but this is beyond my skill set. I merely updated some category names. – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] [[User talk:Fayenatic london|'''L'''ondon]] 14:34, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

==Dark Mode==
I'm confused. Why exactly is Infobox styling completely hidden in dark mode while other CSS isn't? --'''''[[User:DollarStoreBa'al|DollarStoreBa'al]][[User Talk:DollarStoreBa'al|Converse]]''''' 22:44, 9 May 2026 (UTC)

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